He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not…
Or, Are TrannieHawks Gay, Straight, or What?
First, we need to define who we mean. We are not talking about straight men who fall in love with a woman only later to learn that she is a post-op transwoman. We are talking about men who specifically seek out transwomen, especially pre-op transwomen. We use the scientific name for this specific sexual interest, “gynandromorphophilia“. A common question about these men is, are they straight, gay, or what?
Many insist that those who date and especially marry transwomen are bisexual, or perhaps closeted homosexual. A recent paper by Hsu et al has conclusive evidence that this is NOT the case. As shown here, gynandromorphophilic (GAMP) men are much more like heterosexual men in their sexual responses, as measured by a ‘peter-meter’ and by self-reported arousal to pre-op transwomen, here defined as gynandromorphs (GAM). Note that GAMP genital sexual arousal is slightly, but robustly, higher than their attraction to natal females. Given their much lower response to males, we can rule out describing them as “bisexual” or “homosexual” in any real sense. Also note that for all three groups, gay, straight, and GAMP, their subjective arousal seems to be understating their actual arousal to transwomen relative to male and female stimuli. This suggests that there may be a bit of social desirability bias in all three groups of men. That is to say, admitting to finding transwomen “sexy” is ‘not the thing’ to do, even for gynandromorphophiles.
The question that comes up is; what is different about tranniehawks and conventionally straight men? As has been remarked upon by many, including by me, most of them are also autogynephilic. In this study, that hypothesis was tested and found to be true. Using Blanchard’s Core Autogynephilia Scale (0-8), the mean score of the GAMP subjects (N=24) was 2.88 (SD=3.47) compared to the straight subjects (N=21) score of 0.35 (0.99) and that of the gay subjects (N=21) of only 0.06 (0.24). Even more interesting is that when we further divide the GAMP groups into those who self-identify as “bisexual” and “heterosexual”, we see a difference between their autogynphilia scores of 5.20 (3.46) and 1.21 (2.42) respectively. This is very much in keeping with other research that shows that autogynephilic (AGP) men often exhibit “pseudo-bisexuality” (aka: psuedo-androphilia) in which their interpersonal autogynephilic sexual ideation includes fantasies of having sex with men, as women. The data suggests that while most of the GAMP subjects were highly AGP, a few might be only mildly autogynephilic.
It should be noted that most MTF transkids, including myself, do NOT like having relationships with GAMPs, partially due to unconsciously recognizing their essentially autogynephilic sexuality which is self-reflective and partially due to GAMPs’ focus on pre-op genitalia, which given the “avoidant” nature of most MTF transkids, makes them exceedingly uncomfortable.
Newer Essay on Autogynephilies and Gynandromorphophilia
Previous essay on personal experiences with TrannieHawks
Commentary on the mutual gynandrophmorphophilic relationships between autogynephiles in my essay on transsexual marriages.
Essay on “Avoidant” behavior in MTF transkids
Commentary on MTF transkids (HSTS) not comfortable with gynandromorphophiles in my book review of Bailey’s The Man Who Would Be Queen
Commentary on MTF “true transsexuals” (transkids) not comfortable with gynandromorphophiles by Dr. Robert Stoller and on “avoidant” behavior in his 1968 book, “Sex and Gender”.
Essay on Autogynephilic Psuedo-Androphilia.
K. J. Hsu, A. M. Rosenthal, D. I. Miller and J. M. Bailey, “Who are gynandromorphophilic men? Characterizing men with sexual interest in transgender women”